美国网民惊呼:希腊危机和中国相比微不足道
2015-07-07 15:33:10



The population of Greece is slightly less than the state of Ohio's, while its gross domestic product is just a little bit bigger than the economies of Kazakhstan, Algeria and Qatar.

希腊人口少于俄亥俄州,而其GDP也只比哈萨克斯坦,阿尔及利亚和卡塔尔大一点。

Instead of focusing on Athens, investors should be much more worried about what's going on in China. You know, that country with about 1.4 billion people and the world's second largest GDP?

与其关注希腊,投资者更应该关注中国的情况。你知道,中国拥有14亿人口,GDP世界第二。

The Shanghai Composite and Shenzhen Composite have both plunged about 30% from their highs due to legitimate concerns that Chinese stocks are in a bubble.

上证和深证成指都从最高点处下滑了30%,因为人们担忧中国股票正陷入泡沫之中,而这种担忧是合理的。

China's government is taking steps to try and minimize any more pain in the market. But that could backfire.

中国政府正采取措施以最小化股市所带来的阵痛。但是可能会适得其反。

ifarm18 minutes ago
For all the commentors drubbing the Chinese through the mud. I can tell you as an ex Patent attorney that many of the patent examiners understand better about our patent system and how it relates to the economy than most Americans even than most attorneys. The real surprise is that many US patent Examiners are Asian Chinese and Japanese. Today one of the under secretaries of the Patent Office held seminar to explain to Americans how the system works. She was Ms Lee a Japanese, I believe.

对于所有诽谤中国人的评论者,我想对你们说的是作为之前的一名专利律师,好多专利审查员对我们的专利系统以及专利与经济之间关系的了解比大部分美国人来的深,甚至比大部分律师来得深刻。而真正让人感到吃惊的是美国的好多专利审查员是来自亚洲的中国人和日本人。今天,美国专利局的一名副局长举办了一次研讨会,向美国人解释了专利系统的运作模式。她的名字姓李,好像是日本人。

phneutral20 minutes ago
Big difference, China has money. Lots of money and seems to understand, at least, rudimentary economics.

有很大的差别,中国有钱。有好多钱,而且中国人明白基本的经济学。

smartmouth21 hour ago
Do we still print money or have we stopped that? From where do the feds get money to lend bankers at almost 0%?

我们美国还在印钱吗,还是已经停止了?那美联储从哪里获得资金并将这些资金以零利息借给银行?

 

nick64464 hours ago
In dealing with the US the trading strategy of Asian countries is clear: Always maintain a large and continuing trade surplus by making imports difficult, exports easy and encourage a high personal savings rate among the population. Then use the trade surplus plus savings to purchase US real property (buildings, Land, Natural resources etc ) , and open businesses in the US, employing locals, as well buying US debt to acquire more political and economic influence; In short buy the other mans property with his money as well as buying influence with his money. We are saps for allowing this.

在应对美国时,亚洲国家采取的贸易策略是明显的:通过让出口变得容易,进口变得困难,以及鼓励大众储蓄的方式,从而保持对美国的巨额贸易顺差。然后利用贸易顺差和储蓄购买美国的不动产(建筑,土地,自然资源等等),并在美国建立企业,雇佣当地人,并购买美国国债以获得更多的政治和经济影响力;总之么就是用他的钱购买其他人的财产和影响力。而我们竟然允许这种事情发生。

 

Jeremiah Donaldson8 hours ago
"Instead, it appears markets are being levitated by continued government borrowings and manipulations."
Funny it's a bad thing when China does it but business as usual when the USA does it.

"显然,因为政府不断的借贷和操纵,导致市场不稳定。"
搞笑,中国这么做时就是一件坏事,而当美国这么做时,就都是正常的。

JFCanton7 hours ago
@Jeremiah Donaldson
The baldness of the manipulation is much greater here. When the US does it, it's for preserving confidence in private business that continues to go on, while this is straightforwardly creating business.

中国这里的操纵更加的赤裸裸。而美国这么做时,是为了保持人们对私企的信心,而中国这些做完全就是为了创造交易。

mitchgam8 hours ago
China is doing whatever it can to manipulate its currency and the worlds economy in its favor.
While it worked for a while, the cracks are growing in their schemes and in time, they aren their government will crumble.
Like with the former Soviet Union and now Iran, time is on our side.
All we really need to do is get our house in order and be patient.

中国正在尽己所能操纵自己的货币和世界经济,目的是为了让自己获得好处。
虽然这能起到一时的作用,但是他们计划中的漏洞越来越多,他们的政府迟早会崩溃。
就好比前苏联和现在的伊朗,时间站在我们这一边。
我们需要做的就是做好自己的事情并耐心等待。

DCBuckeye8 hours ago
IIRC, Chia is the biggest holder of U.S. debt. If their economy tanks, what's the possibility of calling these loans in?

如果我没记错的话,中国是美国债务的最大持有者。如果他们的经济崩溃,他们要求我们还债的可能性有多大?

mitchgam8 hours ago
@DCBuckeye 0

可能性为0

Twizzler18 hours ago
@DCBuckeye Actually, Japan surpassed China for that particular honor. But even so, the likelihood of China calling loans is virtually zero.

实际上,日本才是美国债务的最大持有者。但是即使如此,中国要求我们还贷的可能性为0。

Tom Evans8 hours ago
@Twizzler1 @DCBuckeye
Even if China's government disappeared those US bonds would still exist. Someone or group would be holding on to them and expect to get paid.

即使中国政府消失了,中国所持有的美国债券依然会存在。某人或者某个团体会继续持有这些债券,到期时美国才会偿清。

booboospal8 hours ago
@Twizzler1 @DCBuckeye
At the end of April, China's holdings exceeded Japan's by about $50B.

到四月底,中国持有的美国国债超越了日本,超出额为500亿美元。

Democant20168 hours ago
@DCBuckeye
At this current point in time, the US will have no problem reissuing Treasuries when those China & Chinese investors hold comes due.

在这个节点,当中国及中国投资者所持有的美国国债到期时,美国补发国债没有问题。

booboospal8 hours ago
@DCBuckeye
They are the largest (by a little compared with Japan) FOREIGN holder of US debt, about $1.263B. Treasury debt isn't "callable." It matures on a schedule and is refinanced. They could stop buying US debt when various pieces of existing debt mature, but that would occur over time and have little effect on us.

中国是美国债务的最大外国持有人,比日本多一点,大约是12630亿美元。但国债并非"随时可偿还的"。国债是根据预定的时间安排到期的,而且可以再融资。当现有的各种债务到期后,他们可以停止购买美国债券,但是那需要时间,而且几乎不会对我们产生什么影响。

An'ya Kuro7 hours ago
@DCBuckeye Social Security is the biggest holder of US debt. The largest foreign holders are China and Japan.

社会保险才是美国债务的最大持有人。而最大的外国持有者分别是中国和日本。

Publius136 hours ago
@DCBuckeye 0. "Calling" loans is subject to contractual terms, usually permitting a creditor to "call" or shorten a repayment schedule due to a decrease in the creditworthiness of the debtor. In the situation you posit, it is the creditworthiness of the creditor that is the potential problem, not that of the debtor. No sovereign debt contracts provide for unilateral shortening of the repayment period based on the fact that the creditor needs its money sooner than anticipated.

贷款偿还要求是受合同条款支配的,合同条款中规定如果债务人的信誉下降,那么债权人就有权利要求或者缩短还款期限。而在你所说的情况中,是债权人的信誉可能出现问题,而不是债务人的信誉出现问题。在任何的国债合同中,都没有规定说由于债权人马上需要资金从而可以单方面的缩短支付期限。