俄罗斯在波罗的海开战,北约将快速战败 美网友:疯了
2016-02-16 16:43:03




If Russian tanks and troops rolled into the Baltics tomorrow, outgunned and outnumbered NATO forces would be overrun in under three days. That’s the sobering conclusion of war games carried out by a think tank with American military officers and civilian officials.

如果俄罗斯的坦克和部队明天就冲进波罗的海沿线,武器装备和数量上处于劣势的北约部队将在三天内被击败。这是一个由军事专家和文职官员组成的美国智囊机构通过一个战争推演得出的冷静结论。

“The games’ findings are unambiguous: As currently postured, NATO cannot successfully defend the territory of its most exposed members,” said a report by the RAND Corp., which led the war gaming research.

主持战争推演研究的兰德公司的一份报告中指出:“战争推演的结果是很清楚的:按照目前的情况,北约将不能成功保卫它大部分易受到攻击的成员国的领土。“

美国网友:唯一一个希望俄罗斯和欧洲开战的家伙就是那个发起每次战争的战争狂——美国。让北约在开启一个和俄罗斯的傀儡战争并牺牲掉欧洲之前滚出我们的国家。让白人去打仗是疯狂的。我们的国家正在被侵略。
Ronald 11 hours ago
I notice in this article that the United States is in the process of spending American money to shore up the defense of Europe. Why is the burden being left to the United States and it's tax payers? What the heck is wrong with Great Britton, France and Germany and the Scandinavian countries pulling their own weight, increasing their military spending and increasing their troop levels and making a larger effort to defend themselves? Why is it our obligation to defend them while our Country has crumbling infrastructure, crummy expensive health care and a mediocre educational system? What's wrong with this picture?

我注意到这篇文章提到美国正处于花美国人的钱来支撑欧洲防务的过程之中。为什么这个责任要让美国和它的纳税人来背负?英国、法国、德国以及斯堪的纳维亚诸国在搞什么,为什么他们不增加军备开支、提高军队水平以及作出努力保卫自己?当我们自己的国家有着年久失修的基础设施、肮脏又昂贵的卫生保健以及中庸的教育体系的时候,为什么保卫他们成为了我们的责任?怎么就搞成这样了?

Satoshi Nakamoto 12 hours ago
The only ones who want a war between Russia and Europe are the same warmongers who start every war, the US. Get Nato out of our nations before they suicide Europe in a proxy war against Russia. It is insane for h-wites to ever go to war. Our nations are being invaded.

唯一一个希望俄罗斯和欧洲开战的家伙就是那个发起每次战争的战争狂——美国。让北约在开启一个和俄罗斯的傀儡战争并牺牲掉欧洲之前滚出我们的国家。让白人去打仗是疯狂的。我们的国家正在被侵略。
JRailling 10 hours ago
"Tanks are few and far between now in NATO countries, the report said. Germany’s arsenal of about 2,200 main battle tanks in the Cold War has declined to roughly 250. Britain, meanwhile, is planning on pulling out its last brigade headquarters left on the continent."

现在北约国家的坦克很少并且部署分散,有报道说德国的主战坦克从冷战时的大约2200辆下降到只有大约250辆左右.与此同时,英国打算从欧洲大陆撤离最后一个旅指挥部.

If the other members of NATO aren't willing to pay to keep their freedom, why should we? Is the independence of Germany more important to Americans than it is to Germans? I guess the new mantra in Berlin is "We will fight to the last American!"

如果其他北约成员国不愿意为他们的自由买单,我们又为什么要为之付钱呢?德国的独立自主性是对美国人还是对德国人更重要呢?我想柏林的新口号是"我们会战斗到最后一个美国人!"

MICHAEL 12 hours ago
a few tactical nukes would take care of any advancing Russian forces. and I do believe that Russia will try to retake the Baltic states since there were no repercussions for taking Crimea. putin is definitely looking to take back the old soviet republic AND he's definitely looking to expand Russian influence into the middle east thru Syria and iran. and he will do it. who's to stop him? us? not likely. he realizes the us wont go to nuclear war over the Baltics or the middle east.

只要几颗战术核弹就能干掉俄罗斯的先头部队.而且我相信自从俄罗斯吞并克里米亚而没有为之付出代价,俄罗斯会设法重新夺回波罗的海国家.普京肯定期待着夺回苏维埃的领土,并且使俄罗斯的势力范围一路扩张到中东直到叙利亚,伊朗.而且普京肯定会真的这么干,谁会阻止他?美国吗?不见得,因为他知道美国不愿意在波罗的海或者中东打核战争.
Jim Vaughan 10 hours ago
ARE WE FOOTING THE BILL AGAIN? I would like to know whether the administration is requiring those Baltic countries to foot the bill for these increased defense expenditures, and whether the administration is requiring our NATO "partners" in Western Europe?. And what about our "partners' " own national defense budgets…..i.e., are we requiring them to increase their budgets as a condition of our new expenditures. While we're at it, I would also like to know whether our Western European partners are reimbursing us for the expenses incurred in the process of keeping American troops in Europe. If not, we've gotta get tough with them: cough it up or we're pulling out….period, end of discussion,
jim vaughan Grass Vallely, Ca

又是我们买单? 我想知道当局是否要求那些波罗的海国家、西欧北约 '"伙伴" 为提增的这些军费买单."伙伴" 们的国防预算呢?还有啊,我们要求他们为这笔新帐增加预算了吗?
如果要求了,那么,我也想知道,美军驻欧,西欧“伙伴”有补偿我们的驻军开销吗?如果没有,那就硬硬地: 要不他们出血,要不我们闪人! 没有然后了.
ChrisR 9 hours ago
The first step should be to hold every country to the 2% of GDP number and give them a timeline of 2 or 3 years to bring it up and if they can't they get kicked out.
There is something this article doesn't count on and that's american anger. If Russia were to roll over those three countries and kill thousands of american troops in the process, there will be a massive 28 nation conventional counter strike to push them out (NOT to invade traditional Russian territory, that's how you start a nuclear war).
But unfortunately the article is right, if Russia were to mount a 'Blitzkrieg' through those 3 nations, there is little we could do to stop it while it was happening.

第一步就是让每个国家的国防预算占据本国GDP的2%,并要求他们在2到3年时间内建立起自己的军队,如果做不到,就踢出去。
这篇文章没有谈及的是美国人的愤怒。如果俄罗斯入侵了这三个国家并在此过程中杀死数千名美国士兵,那么将有28个国家作出抵抗并将俄罗斯人驱离(但不是去侵略传统的俄罗斯领土,否则的话就要引发核战了)。
但遗憾的是,这篇文章是对的。如果俄罗斯在这三个国家发起闪电战,那么我们将无能为力。